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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2020, 11:02:50 pm »
It sounds like a disjointed mess, the ramblings of a 4:55am C2C caller. If it showed up on a publishers doorstep without Whitleys name on it would it have gotten published?

Frankly no, it would not.

It was an interesting but also frustrating read. I'm not sure who Whitley's editor was, or if he even had one, but the hopping around and failure to channel the events into some form of coherent timeline made it a chore to read. The Kobolds alone ping pong through multiple chapters before we ever find out they may well be "us" in the future, which is the kind of revelation that someone more workmanlike in their writing (Nick Redfern perhaps) could have taken and run with as a central themed short book.

It's such a divergence from Whitley's early work that I'm inclined to blame Jeff Kripal for scrambling Whitley's formerly accessible prose into something resembling a miscast doctoral thesis of sorts.

My sense is that unless Whitley can provide an ATIP grade physical proof(s) this lifetime of experiments and staged theater is destined to be ultimately unfulfilling, regardless of how desperately he wants to promote contact.

That said, I found it somewhat comforting that he turned to prayer after the final prescis event - proof that some human constants have both merit sndf observable power. So really if there is no "God" as we know Him, if Christ was just a composite character as opposed to the actual Son of God...why would our alien "visitors" pull back from their meddling when His name was invoked?

And it also begs the question of why Kripal was so fearful of the brief contact he experienced. Only pure evil would have that visceral an impact so quickly one must think.

This is the kind of book where one is forced to winnow the events and speculations down to which ones seem to have concrete results. At least that was my take when all was said and done.

But there's another good read that bears mention here...more to come... :o

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2020, 11:10:42 pm »
https://anomalistbooks.com/book.cfm?id=101



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SPACE AGE INDIANS presents the encounters of American Indians who lived from the time when the first human astronauts ventured into space to the present day—a time known as the Space Age. Almost all the experiencers interviewed by the author have used computers, social media, and the internet, at least to some extent. While their stories differed significantly from those not exposed to all the media information about UFOs and aliens, it did not appear to influence their experience. Their amazing and sometimes bizarre stories represent just a fraction of the more than four thousand accounts the author has collected over the years of interviewing American Indians around the country about their encounters with the Star People.

Note how much more organized the chapter flow is:

Section I: The Blue Men

Section II: Reptilians an Insectoids

Section 3: Other Star People


The other thing I can say for Clarke is that her writing hews to the best standards of interviewing; she lets her subject tell their story and in doing so the narration is very natural, always personal, and as such the diversity and commonality of these vivid encounters allow the reader to arrive at solid conclusions - one of mine being that there are some bad actors among the
"visitors" - bad enough that one ought not be out seeking contact on a whim.

It's tough book to put down. I read it in a rather short period of time because it was just that engaging!

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2020, 12:51:03 am »
https://www.soulask.com/interdimensional-entities-are-visiting-us-confirms-the-fbi/

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According to released documents from the FBI archives these so-called interdimensional entities have been visiting us for a long time and have taken precautiions not to be seen in our visual spectrum and the only way they were detected in the first place is through infrared cameras! This is quite amazing stuff and a really big declaration by one of the world’s most respected law enforcement agencies? Could this be a load of old shoe laces or is there anything to this? Well, yes there is and it’s official as you can check for yourself right here:

Here’s a snap shot of the FBI website with the documents.



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So after reading these papers, it states in them:

Part of the Disks carry crews, other’s are under remote control.
Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane.
These visitors are human-like but much larger in size.
They are not “unknown word” Earth people, but come from their own world.
They do not come from any “planet” as we use the word, but from an othoric planet which interpenertrates with our own and is not perceptible to us.
The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically “materialise” on entering the vibrancy of our dones matter. (Cp. “Apports”)
The disc possesses a type of radiant energy, or a ray which will easily disintergrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and so simply disapear from our vision without trace.
The region from which they come is not the “astral plane” but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of the aesoteric matter will understand these terms.
They probably cannot be reached by radio, but probably can be by radar if a signal system can be devised for that apparatus.
We give information and warning and can do no more. Let the newcomers be treated with every kindness, unless…


My oh my...Whitley gets confirmation from the FBI!

Dang.

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2020, 12:58:20 am »
I'm going to introduce the fascinating Kiwi Trevor James Constable who spent a life in the Merchant Marine at sea and used his time shipboard to engage in experiments in cloud "busting" and rain "making" as Dr. Wilhelm Reich had.



But one of his key investigations was into "sky creatures" as he called them, or living UFOs:

https://youtu.be/1Ez4_rOI9VQ


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Author and historian Trevor James Constable discusses his work tracking the reality of huge, invisible flying creatures and his research into weather modification.
Constable detailed his initial discovery of invisible flying creatures in the 1950's, when he was visiting contactee George Van Tassel and was, himself, "extremely sensitive." During this encounter, Constable said he could feel the disturbances in the atmosphere created by these creatures, aimed his camera at them, and photographed the oddities. He alleged that these invisible entities were later captured on ultraviolet film by NASA in the infamous 1996 video release known as the "Tether Incident." Based on this footage, Constable surmised that "the whole of outer space is just crawling with these things."

He also talked about his research into weather modification, notably creating rain using what he called "a biological form of energy which conventional scientific people have not yet been able to master." He explained that this energy source is the same form of power that Wilhelm Reich called "orgone energy." Recalling his most productive experiment with rainmaking, Constable said that he'd generated 21 inches of rain over the course of 20 hours. According to him, the energy force used in his rainmaking experiments also serves as the propulsion method for both UFOs and the invisible creatures.

"Infrared film, exposed between dawn and sunrise in high, dry locales will frequently objectify invisible objects of various kinds living in and passing through the atmosphere." [p.51]

His results were extraordinary. Not only were conventional discs and spacecraft-like forms captured on film, but amazing ameoboid entities. Commenting on these, and describing his own astonishment and surprise, Trevor Constable, in his provocative and profound autobiographical book, "The Cosmic Pulse of Life", refers to

"...the unwelcome nature of these photographs....These living creatures, these bioforms, were neither what we wanted nor what we expected. We wanted spacecraft. At that time we stood in ignorance of any biological element in UFOs....In the intervening years I have observed with interest and fascination the disquieting, disturbing effect (the photos and film) have on all persons whose approach to UFOs is mechanistic. This experience has taught me that purported scientific "objectivity" is a fiction..." [pp83-4]



This is a bit of a research preamble gang, please do a little digging on Reich, Orgone energy, and the etheric because I will soon post some material that dovetails with the grays or visitors vis a vis Whitley's experiences and not in perhaps the most benevolent manner.

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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2020, 01:06:26 am »
http://projectcamelot.org/reich.html

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When his group arrived in Tucson from heavily-wooded Maine on October 19, they were shocked by the Arizona desert, which was apparently much more severe than it is today. "We were impressed by the bare ground, giving a general impression of whiteness, hardness," Reich wrote. "The river beds had all been dry for about 50 years . . . no prairie grass was to be seen anywhere."

Over the next few weeks, the party – composed of Reich, his daughter Eva and son Peter, Moise and another assistant – suffered almost immediately from dehydration, exhaustion and general discomfort, all of which they attributed to poisonous "deadly orgone radiation." However, harassment from UFOs was sporadic but persistent, leading Reich to theorize that the "thirsty" aerial phenomena were actively fighting his rainmaking efforts.

The researchers fought back throughout November, apparently encouraging a rich growth of winter prairie grass but no rain. Transportation difficulties had forced Reich to leave his supply of radioactive material behind at Orgonon, leaving the cloudbusters at a sharp disadvantage against the UFOs. Without the radioactive charge, Reich's team could only annoy the lights in the sky but not hinder their inscrutable activity in any real sense.

Meanwhile, the UFOs kept making the researchers miserable. One of Reich's assistants suffered a "breakdown" while training his cloudbuster on the sky, forcing him to return to his family for a month of recuperation. In his absence, Reich speculated that the man had drawn too much poisonous orgone from a lurking alien object.
By December 7, Reich decided it was time to strengthen his hand by sending for his radioactive hole card, two radium needles charged with orgone. After a plane trip marked by misadventure and bad weather, the needles arrived a week later.

Once Reich had his radium, he was ready to retake the offensive against the UFOs and the desert simultaneously.
"On December 14, about 16:30 hours, a full-scale interplanetary battle came off," he wrote. "A battle which would have appeared incredible as well as incomprehensible to anyone who knew nothing about the (UFO) problems or who adhered to the illusion" that neither UFOs nor orgone existed.

First, the Orgonon team had to shake off "a special kind of deadly orgone attack" that left them "in very bad shape . . . sick . . . dulled, somehow out of balance." A "tremendous black cloud, looking like smoke from a huge fire" grew over Tucson, eventually taking on an angry reddish-purple coloration and triggering readings of 100,000 counts per minute on Reich's geiger counter. All of the researchers "suffered from nausea, quivering, pain in the upper abdomen and discoloration of movements," while "about a dozen Air Force planes of various kinds" flew over the team's camp.

Matters of orgone, beneficial or poisonous, aside, Reich's description of the event is reminiscent of a nuclear bomb test: a strong military presence, radiation, smoke, queasiness. However, it is unlikely that the government would set off a bomb apparently targeted directly on Tucson, a thriving regional center of commerce.

Reich brought his radium needles into contact with the cloudbusters and started firing away at the cloud to dissipate its power. The operation took about 20 minutes, at which time the cloud had broken up and the geiger count returned to normal.

It rained three weeks later. In the meantime, Reich's journal is filled with dozens of UFO sightings – "red-white-blue pulsations," "yellow pulsations," "silvery disks," "green-yellow steady" – on which to train his spacegun sights. Most "grew fainter," were "extinguished" or "blinked out." The grass covering the desert grew to a height of "several inches to a foot deep," encouraging local ranchers to drive cattle into the region in herds.

After a brief side trip to Jacumba, CA, the team headed home to Maine at the end of April, 1955. "Our job in Arizona was done," Reich said.

He was dead 18 months later, and all available copies of his books were burned by court order. Only a few copies survived, forcing his scattered disciples to rely on private printings of his works – including Contact in Space – for direction.

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2020, 08:47:43 pm »
Reading list for you peeps:

https://theunfamousseries.com/hidden-history-rain-engineering-and-ufo-reality.html

https://borderlandsciences.org/cart/trevor-james-constable/

https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-History-Rain-Engineering-Reality/dp/1585091480?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1585091480


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Extra-physical entities with an interest in the earth plane can only manifest here through correspondences. They do not come down and land on the White House lawn because they do not belong to the Earth plane. So what they have to do is find correspondences within those in authority and control what they can access, and by those means, infuse their malevolent ideas and purposes into civilization....

Despite the prodigious proliferation of computers and other things that are supposed to improve productivity and increase the standard of living, our standard of living goes down. The chief agency and the chief link between the ruling authorities, the real rulers here, and those in the extra physical realm who are utilizing them, is the dishonesty of the men on the physical plane. That's what opens them to access from the unseen...

Anyone who does not understand the difference between Lucifer, Ahriman (the evil diety of the Zoroastrian religion) and Christ will never know anything about this world.

We in the USA are fully in the clutches not of Lucifer, but his opposite, Ahriman, and the Ahrimanic powers in general.

This is what you are dealing with in the so called phenomenon of the Greas, all of which is taking place in the darkness. It's a significant point, it's a signature. Nothing is out on the table, nothing is in the light, everything is in the dark....

Do verything that you want to do, or that you want to see done, in the broad light of day and right out on the tabletop. That is a principle I think that our government relinquished and buried a long time ago. Alas for America!



- Paranoia Magazine - issue 5 summer 1994 ( interview with Trevor James Constable)

Consider that was 1994, for most of the populace very pre-interwebs.

Discuss.

https://www.deliriumsrealm.com/ahriman/

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Ahriman in Zoroastrianism
In ancient Persian religion (Zoroastrianism), Ahriman (aka Arimanius or Angra Mainya) stood high in the ranks of the enemies who opposed Ahura Mazda (aka Ohrmazd or Oromasdes). Ahriman is thought to be the first personification of “the Devil” because Zoroastrians believed in a completely dualistic form of religion.

Four Stands in Zoroastrianism
There are four major stands in Zoroastrianism. The first is that of Zarathustra (Zoroaster). The second is of the teachings of Mazdaism, which made Ahriman creator and leader of the daevas. The third is that of Zeravansim, and the fourth is that of the Magi.

Teachings of Zarathustra
Zarathustra believed that one of the ahuras, Ahura Mazda, was the supreme god, and chose to be good, while Ahriman chose to be evil. Therefore, the daevas that opposed the ahuras chose to be evil as well, and were commonly thought of as demons. All things in Zoroastrian have free will and choose whether they want to be good or evil.

According to the Vendidad, Ahriman co-created the world with Ahura Mazda, countering evil with everything good Ahura Mazda created. He created “the serpent in the river, and Winter, a work of the Daevas,” “the locust, which brings death unto cattle and plants,” “plunder and sin,” “the ants and the ant-hills,” “the sin of unbelief,” “tears and wailing,” “the Pairika Knathaiti, who claves unto Keresaspa,” “the sin of pride,” “a sin for which there is no atonement, the unnatural sin,” “the evil work of witchcraft,” “the sin of utter unbelief,” “a sin for which there is no atonement, the cooking of corpse,” and “abnormal issues in women, and barbarian oppression”. He also created creates 99,999 diseases.

He also attempted to maim the divine prophet Zarathustra. He first sent the demon Buiti to kill Zarathustra, but the prophet chanted aloud the Ahuna-Vairya, and the demon fled back to Ahrian. Ahriman himself then ‘rushed forth from the regions of the North to lure away the Prophet from the path of righteousness,’ but the prophet resisted the temptation and affirmed that he would never do the bidding of Ahriman.

Later texts refer to Ahura Mazda as having created six (sometimes seven) Amesha Spenta, or archangels. Angra Mainya also created a council of six (sometimes seven) archdemons. The archdemons (daevas) are known as Aka Manah, Indra, Sauru, Taurvi, Zairitsha, and Naonhaithya (the seventh is Aeshma).

Eventually, Ahriman will be defeated by the coming of a Saoshyant or Saviour. Ancient texts refer to three great souls who are designated to be Saoshyants. The third of these will destroy evil and bring forth the reign of righteousness. The coming is referred to in the Farvardin Yasht, which says he will be the son of Zarathustra and will be conceived through a virgin called ‘the all-destroying’ (Yasht xiii.142; Vendidad xix.5). He will be assisted by his friends, who are fiend-smitting, well-thinking, well-speaking, well-doing, and whose tongues have never uttered a word of falsehood (Yasht xiii.142).

After this, the world will be restored, the dead will arise, and life and immortality will come.

“With the disappearance of evil from the universe, good will prevail everywhere and for all time; and the accursed name of Angra Mainya will be forgotten. Ahura Mazda will be for ever, even as he has been from all eternity” (Yasht xix.11,12).




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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2020, 08:49:12 pm »

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2020, 08:50:40 pm »
https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-History-Rain-Engineering-Reality/dp/1585091480?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1585091480

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   vytob
4.0 out of 5 stars Great ideas from an obscure researcher
January 11, 2017
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Trevor Constable (who died in 2016) was a remarkable man, but almost unknown, apart from very specialized circles. The book is a compilation of his achievements, largely as a collection of individual chapters on various topics of interest to Constable. The three--very unrelated--topics covered are (1) UFOs as living entities; (2) etheric rain engineering; and (3) UK army World War II history. The first topic is covered at greater length in his "Cosmic Pulse of Life," another highly recommended book. Etheric rain engineering is the dominant topic in the present book and, presumably, is the reason why most people would be buying the book. The late, great Dr. Wilhelm Reich (a polymath, if there ever was one) discovered the cloudbuster accidentally and, fortunately wrote that up enough so that others could pick up the thread. A number of people made limited efforts to duplicate what Reich did, but Constable dedicated several decades of his life to improving the system. Because of this, he must be considered a great inventor, since he brought it to a vastly improved state of competence, compared to what was proposed by Reich.

Nonetheless, the book and the man are frustrating. The main problem is that our society offers no way for truly innovative inventors to make a living other than keeping their inventions secret and trying to earn money from their proprietary nature. (By truly innovative, I mean those whose science is so far ahead of their times that the Patent Office would not give them the time of day). This usually frustrates, rather than enriching, the inventor. But worse yet, it keeps society impoverished, since the inventor struggles hard, learns profound truths or technologies, then takes them to his grave.

Mr. Constable is a poster boy for this situation. The book is interesting to read because the ideas are so novel and--most important--because they have been demonstrated to work. This is not some pie-in-the-sky scheme, but demonstrated control of the ethers to make rain and to drive away smog. But you will not learn how to make any of these devices from reading this book....it is a secret. Now, I suppose that someone who is already experimenting with cloudbusters might be able to take some subtle hints, or see some long-shot, small photos and glean something of value towards his endeavors. But if your read Reich's work and now want to go the next step beyond, this book is not a guidebook for you.

I also need to explain that, in Constable's case, taking his secrets to the grave is not fully correct. He formed a partnership with a Singapore businessman named George Wuu to commercially exploit the concepts in southeast Asia. Wuu's company, Etheric Rain Engineering Pte may or may not still exist, but if it does, it is clear that it is effectively invisible in the English-speaking world. Constable apparently retired about 15 years before his death, and any more current etheric rain engineering efforts are either done in deep secrecy or, more likely, no research is being pursued by anyone. Which is indeed a shame. As I write this review, googling "etheric rain engineering" gives exactly 87 hits. A phrase with three random words might give you more hits...

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2020, 10:07:57 pm »
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/ahriman

Steiner taught that Ahriman and Lucifer are demons who have wreaked great harm. But he also said that these demons have been helpful in our evolution. Lucifer’s aspirations to egohood and spiritual knowledge helped us to have similar aspirations — although he may mislead us into false spirituality and rebellion against the gods.

Ahriman is the demon of intellect, worldly knowledge, science, and technology. He offers us mastery of the physical realm, but he also lures us into excessive materialism and soullessness. His impending incarnation hangs like a hellish threat over modern life.




This is a separate carving,
a bust of Ahriman,
also attributed to Steiner.
It is more Satanic
— more malevolent.
(Steiner generally identified
Ahriman as Satan
and Lucifer as the Devil,
although he sometimes
varied these identifications.)


Ahriman and his rival/partner Lucifer offer mankind gifts, Steiner taught. And to some degree, we need those gifts. But to a large degree, we must resist the demons. [See "Ahriman" and "Lucifer".] Demons, being demons, are bad dudes. (Just look at Ahriman's mug.) Except for the intervention of the Sun God, the demons would have done us in:

"Lucifer and Ahriman would have been able to bring about disaster to the whole of humanity.” — Rudolf Steiner, "Pre-Earthly Deeds of Christ", GA 152.

In Steiner's teachings, Christ is the Sun God. He fends off the demons for us. See "Sun God".

The demons, being demons, preside over evil kingdoms.

"The evil astral world is the province of Lucifer, the evil Lower Devachan the province of Ahriman." — Rudolf Steiner, THE ETHERISATION OF THE BLOOD (Rudolf Steiner Press, 1971), GA 130. [For more on demons, see "Evil Ones". For more on the astral world, Devachan, etc., see "Higher Worlds".]

From his demonic seat in the spirit realm, Ahriman meddles in physical reality, extending his corruptions through such mechanisms as computers.

◊ "[T]he stored program computer [provides an] incarnation vehicle capable of sustaining the being of Ahriman.” — David B. Black, THE COMPUTER AND THE INCARNATION OF AHRIMAN (Rudolf Steiner College Press, 1981), p. 33.

◊ “Ahriman finds...favourable conditions [for himself] especially in the world of the computer and digital industry.” — Anthroposophist Sergei Prokofieff, “The Being of the Internet,” PACIFICA JOURNAL (Anthroposophical Society in Hawaii), no. 29, 2006.

Computers did not exist in Steiner's day, but Steiner arguably foresaw the advent of "thinking machines" — and the prospect appalled him. Machines will begin to think, he indicated, and people will lose the power to think.

"[W]e have machines today which add and subtract; everything is convenient. Now, in the Future you will not get a law passed which says you must not think. No. What will happen is that things will be done the effect of which will be to exclude all individual thinking." — Rudolf Steiner, THINGS PAST AND PRESENT IN THE SPIRIT OF MAN (transcript, translated by E. H. Goddard), lecture 4, GA 167.

This would be an enormous victory for Ahriman, whose aim is to attack human spirituality and mentality. If he can lure us into slavish use of computers, Ahriman will cut us off from the angels.

"My experience is that the computer is definitely off limits for angels.” — From a discussion at the Rudolf Steiner Archive.

You have been warned.


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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2020, 10:09:22 pm »


...striking similarity to Ahriman, no? :o

Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2020, 09:55:05 pm »
Roddenberry was closer

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2020, 10:15:30 pm »
Roddenberry was closer


Indeed so Padre, and here we go establishing a longer track record of media foreshadowing.

Something is messaging us on a great many levels (solid and subliminal) in a great many idioms, with a remarkably consistent iconography I feel.

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2020, 10:23:36 pm »
Holy smokes! Thanks for the hidden gems, Metron ... Only just discovered 'em.

*smiles*

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Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2020, 10:34:48 pm »
Indeed so Padre, and here we go establishing a longer track record of media foreshadowing.

Something is messaging us on a great many levels (solid and subliminal) in a great many idioms, with a remarkably consistent iconography I feel.

 :-\

But why do they hide from view? Why do they do one-on-one and not show themselves in a more literal way?

Re: Whitley Strieber
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2020, 02:20:18 am »
But why do they hide from view? Why do they do one-on-one and not show themselves in a more literal way?
The "Childhoods end" theory suggests a systematic multi-generation desensitization process through limited contact and repeated exposure through pop culture...if any of that makes any sense lulz