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AZZERAE

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Re: QANON
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2019, 12:06:01 pm »
Just wait when she will be drunk and starts posting her irrational accusations and suggestions of mistreatment.
When she is sober she is quite OK.

I didn't know she was a soak! Tell me it ain't true, OptiMystic?

Re: QANON
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2019, 12:07:04 pm »
Notice that I never called her nasty vulgar names, I was just systematically showing her (with her own posts) that she is manipulative
and never admits to any ever slightest wrong doing, and what's worst never provides solid evidence to support her claims.
She just plows with the victim mentality and demands apologies and some absurd explanations.
It's a an emotional control freak and masochistic instincts combination of a quite disturbed personality amplified greatly when she is drunk.
Just wait when she will be drunk and starts posting her irrational accusations and suggestions of mistreatment.
When she is sober she is quite OK.

None of what you just posted is true.  Sadly, you are so invested in your belief of this, that all the proof to the contrary will be discounted by you.  So, there ya go.  It is what it is and that's all it needs to be.

So.  How about we move on?  Fresh start?  I'm good if you are.

Greetings, Get Ready.  Welcome to AzzGab! ;D ;)

AZZERAE

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Re: QANON
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2019, 12:11:26 pm »
None of what you just posted is true.  Sadly, you are so invested in your belief of this, that all the proof to the contrary will be discounted by you.  So, there ya go.  It is what it is and that's all it needs to be.

So.  How about we move on?  Fresh start?  I'm good if you are.

Greetings, Get Ready.  Welcome to AzzGab! ;D ;)

Wasn't that "alcoholic" rumour some weak joke, that began on BellGab?

Re: QANON
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2019, 12:59:34 pm »
Wasn't that "alcoholic" rumour some weak joke, that began on BellGab?
I don't know, specifically, what he is referring to.  MV often drank during his GabCast shows he said so on air.  And definitely when he had "Drunk Karaoke Night" GabCast. 
There are a LOT of BellGabbers that post when drunk, or high, or buzzed, or all combined (I never got high or buzzed).
So, why with so many to chose from, am I being singled out?

Do I appear drunk to you?

AZZERAE

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Re: QANON
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2019, 01:13:15 pm »
Do I appear drunk to you?

You don't.

I don't know, specifically, what he is referring to.  MV often drank during his GabCast shows he said so on air.  And definitely when he had "Drunk Karaoke Night" GabCast. 
There are a LOT of BellGabbers that post when drunk, or high, or buzzed, or all combined (I never got high or buzzed).
So, why with so many to chose from, am I being singled out?

I think pate once said he struggled with an alcohol addiction (if I remember correctly).

I struggled with alcohol myself, once upon a time ... I even made a thread about it.

Metron

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Re: QANON
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2019, 07:06:39 pm »
Wasn't that "alcoholic" rumour some weak joke, that began on BellGab?

Yes, because I think she said something about liking vodka mixed with cranberry, iirc...zounds!

Ya like one drink and you're an alky?

Tough room with few chinks in the armor to work on.


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Re: QANON
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2019, 07:08:16 pm »
I don't know, specifically, what he is referring to.  MV often drank during his GabCast shows he said so on air.  And definitely when he had "Drunk Karaoke Night" GabCast. 
There are a LOT of BellGabbers that post when drunk, or high, or buzzed, or all combined (I never got high or buzzed).
So, why with so many to chose from, am I being singled out?

Do I appear drunk to you?

a.) No.

Not even a little bit frankly.



 ;D ;D ;D

Re: QANON
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2019, 07:50:27 pm »
a.) No.

Not even a little bit frankly.



 ;D ;D ;D

Gee, THANKS!  >:( >:(    ;D    ;)

Metron

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Re: QANON
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2019, 08:09:10 pm »
 ;D

"time waits for no one..."


GetReady

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Re: QANON
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2019, 07:18:55 am »
I've never had any issues with her myself, but then again, her and I have always gotten along. Maybe I'm also what you would call an "emotional vampire" then?

You seem to think that the evil voices that afflict me are spiritual though, and not a physical/mental illness, like my psychiatrist maintains. So it seems we see things differently, and have a difference of opinion.

I think some people just get along, and others don't. While its unfortunate that OptiMystic may leave you feeling drained, I don't know what to do about it, because I never get that vibe from her myself.

Your contribution to the board is precious to me, as is hers. So perhaps we can all find some middle ground? But if you wanna argue, have at it. I'll have my say too now and then, however - if I feel the need. No need to paint me like the overlord MV is, or Bart, God forbid. I'm just a peon like anyone else here. Or would like to believe so.

Hi Azraa,
yes I do think that way.
Reason is that is that our mental state is connected to the spirit.
But I like to answer this using others more skilled in this topic.
I'm going to highlight few sentences but of course reading the whole answer from this article is preferable.
LINK: https://www.gotquestions.org/Paul-thorn-flesh.html

Question:
"What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?"

Answer: Paul speaks of a “thorn in the flesh” in 2 Corinthians 12:7. He calls it “a messenger of Satan” that had a purpose of “torment.”
Many explanations have been put forward, but whether Paul is referring to a physical, spiritual, or emotional affliction—or something else entirely—
has never been answered with satisfaction.
Since he was not talking of a literal thorn, he must have been speaking metaphorically.
Some of the more popular theories of the thorn’s interpretation include temptation, a chronic eye problem, malaria, migraines, epilepsy, and a speech disability.
Some even say that the thorn refers to a person, such as Alexander the coppersmith, who did Paul “a great deal of harm” (2 Timothy 4:14).
No one can say for sure what Paul’s thorn in the flesh was, but it was a source of real pain in the apostle’s life.

Paul clues us in concerning the thorn’s purpose: “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations.”
So, God’s goal in allowing the thorn in the flesh was to keep Paul humble.

Anyone who had encountered Jesus and was commissioned personally by Him (Acts 9:2-8) would,
in his natural state, become “puffed up.”
Add to that the fact that Paul was moved by the Holy Spirit to write much of the New Testament,
and it is easy to see how Paul could become “haughty” (KJV) or “exalted above measure” (NKJV) or “too proud” (NCV).

Paul also says that the affliction came from or by a “messenger of Satan.” Just as God allowed Satan to torment Job (Job 1:1-12),
God allowed Satan to torment Paul for God’s own good purpose.

No one likes to live in pain.
Paul sought the Lord three times to remove this source of pain from him (2 Corinthians 12:8 ).
He probably had many good reasons why he should be pain-free: he could have a more effective ministry; he could reach more people with the gospel;
he could glorify God even more! But the Lord was more concerned with building Paul’s character and preventing pride.
Instead of removing the problem, whatever it was, God gave Paul more overwhelming grace and more compensating strength.
Paul learned that God’s “power is made perfect in weakness” (verse 9).

The exact nature of Paul’s thorn in the flesh is uncertain. There is probably a good reason that we don’t know.
God likely wanted Paul’s difficulty to be described in general enough terms to apply to any difficulty we may face now.
Whether the “thorn” we struggle with today is physical, emotional, or spiritual, we can know that God has a purpose and that His grace is all-sufficient.
/end of quote/

OK, that example doesn't mean that I believe that God 'personally' allows Satan to affect our physical/mental/emotional state
in every case of mental health struggles, but I strongly believe that (especially) when it comes to our mental emotional well being that most of the times
demonic forces are influencing and affecting our energy fields in those areas of our beings -the body,mind & soul-

There is a place of course for the fact that chemical imbalances (lack of certain vitamins & minerals) are affecting states of our emotions and our mind/mental
spectrum, but hearing voices in ones head for example in my opinion could not be sourced to chemical imbalances.
In my opinion is demonic in nature.
Person is not necessary demonically possessed like in physical body demonic possession cases but is under demonic influences on a mental emotional & spiritual level.
Reasons for that are several, one of them person at some point of their lives open themselves to those reals of demonic energies, could be by listening to music
that is demonic inspired in nature or in art forms demonically inspired, courses, and some other channels that I don't want to type so not to make this post
much longer as it is already.

But I think you understand my point.
There is more that could be said on this topic, but let's just stop at this for now.
I think seeking help via spiritual channels as I posted before is as important /if not more/ then shirks.
I hope you will at least give a try to those suggestion I posed in that other thread.
Good luck with it...:)

GetReady

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Re: QANON
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2019, 07:36:59 am »
I've never had any issues with her myself, but then again, her and I have always gotten along. Maybe I'm also what you would call an "emotional vampire" then?

You seem to think that the evil voices that afflict me are spiritual though, and not a physical/mental illness, like my psychiatrist maintains. So it seems we see things differently, and have a difference of opinion.

I think some people just get along, and others don't. While its unfortunate that OptiMystic may leave you feeling drained, I don't know what to do about it, because I never get that vibe from her myself.

Your contribution to the board is precious to me, as is hers. So perhaps we can all find some middle ground? But if you wanna argue, have at it. I'll have my say too now and then, however - if I feel the need. No need to paint me like the overlord MV is, or Bart, God forbid. I'm just a peon like anyone else here. Or would like to believe so.

No absolutely not. Why not in my opinion?
Because you don't nibble on people with some pity nuances and imaginary perceptions that they did something to you yet you have no proof of it,
or are not willing to share it.

Perhaps you never got that vibe from her because as you know every one of us is perceiving others their words and their attitudes from our unique perspective.
We pay attention to different details.

AZZERAE

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Re: QANON
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2019, 05:13:08 pm »
Hi Azraa,
yes I do think that way.
Reason is that is that our mental state is connected to the spirit.

Now that you put it like that, it makes a helluva lot more sense.

But I like to answer this using others more skilled in this topic.
I'm going to highlight few sentences but of course reading the whole answer from this article is preferable.
LINK: https://www.gotquestions.org/Paul-thorn-flesh.html

Question:
"What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?"

Answer: Paul speaks of a “thorn in the flesh” in 2 Corinthians 12:7. He calls it “a messenger of Satan” that had a purpose of “torment.”
Many explanations have been put forward, but whether Paul is referring to a physical, spiritual, or emotional affliction—or something else entirely—
has never been answered with satisfaction.
Since he was not talking of a literal thorn, he must have been speaking metaphorically.
Some of the more popular theories of the thorn’s interpretation include temptation, a chronic eye problem, malaria, migraines, epilepsy, and a speech disability.
Some even say that the thorn refers to a person, such as Alexander the coppersmith, who did Paul “a great deal of harm” (2 Timothy 4:14).
No one can say for sure what Paul’s thorn in the flesh was, but it was a source of real pain in the apostle’s life.

Paul clues us in concerning the thorn’s purpose: “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations.”
So, God’s goal in allowing the thorn in the flesh was to keep Paul humble.

Anyone who had encountered Jesus and was commissioned personally by Him (Acts 9:2-8) would,
in his natural state, become “puffed up.”
Add to that the fact that Paul was moved by the Holy Spirit to write much of the New Testament,
and it is easy to see how Paul could become “haughty” (KJV) or “exalted above measure” (NKJV) or “too proud” (NCV).

Paul also says that the affliction came from or by a “messenger of Satan.” Just as God allowed Satan to torment Job (Job 1:1-12),
God allowed Satan to torment Paul for God’s own good purpose.

No one likes to live in pain.
Paul sought the Lord three times to remove this source of pain from him (2 Corinthians 12:8 ).
He probably had many good reasons why he should be pain-free: he could have a more effective ministry; he could reach more people with the gospel;
he could glorify God even more! But the Lord was more concerned with building Paul’s character and preventing pride.
Instead of removing the problem, whatever it was, God gave Paul more overwhelming grace and more compensating strength.
Paul learned that God’s “power is made perfect in weakness” (verse 9).

The exact nature of Paul’s thorn in the flesh is uncertain. There is probably a good reason that we don’t know.
God likely wanted Paul’s difficulty to be described in general enough terms to apply to any difficulty we may face now.
Whether the “thorn” we struggle with today is physical, emotional, or spiritual, we can know that God has a purpose and that His grace is all-sufficient.
/end of quote/

OK, that example doesn't mean that I believe that God 'personally' allows Satan to affect our physical/mental/emotional state
in every case of mental health struggles, but I strongly believe that (especially) when it comes to our mental emotional well being that most of the times
demonic forces are influencing and affecting our energy fields in those areas of our beings -the body,mind & soul-

Oh, you are so right about that. And this Bible verse illustrates the point wonderfully. I often wonder how demons work/exist exactly ... and I'm very uncomfortable with their presence, when they're near. I can feel something, but I've been told by my doctor that its part of schizophrenia.

I'm very much saddened by the way Hollywood depicts mental illness, especially schizophrenia. I see it everywhere, them painting this picture like we're axe murderers, and violent criminals ... but a schizophrenic manifests the illness in a very unique way to them, in all actuality. I am highly sensitive tomy physical environment, to others' facial expressions, and their tone and body language. I also possess a highly acute sixth sense that manifests in my perceiving certain events as "premonitions". Its not very fun, at all ... when you start to convince yourself (or are fully convinced) that you have extra sensory perception, and can spot the synchronicity all around you, in otherwise insignificant instances.

Occasionally, I've wondered why it is this thing has grabbed a hold of my being, and robbed me of so much ... but in other ways, I've grown tremendously, in a personal sense, from the unpleasant experiences I've had to face - those dancing around across my own vision, and just outside my ears. Everything hurts sometimes, and others, well, its apathy to the point of melting into a couch, mouth agape, fascinated by the sensory overload (nonexistent to anyone else) as the world inside you turns itself upside down.

There is a place of course for the fact that chemical imbalances (lack of certain vitamins & minerals) are affecting states of our emotions and our mind/mental
spectrum, but hearing voices in ones head for example in my opinion could not be sourced to chemical imbalances.
In my opinion is demonic in nature.
Person is not necessary demonically possessed like in physical body demonic possession cases but is under demonic influences on a mental emotional & spiritual level.
Reasons for that are several, one of them person at some point of their lives open themselves to those reals of demonic energies, could be by listening to music
that is demonic inspired in nature or in art forms demonically inspired, courses, and some other channels that I don't want to type so not to make this post
much longer as it is already.

I once was friends with this really creepy girl in college, who claimed she was a Satanist, and it peaked my interest for some reason. She and I would engage in binge drinking sessions, and she was a very aggressive person. I think she turned out to suffer with Bipolar Disorder. Anyway, she gave me a Sigil of Baphomet, and suggested, if I were to give my life to Satan, I recite a few words. I went home and started doing it, but got scared halfway through, and put the papers away in my backpack.

That night, I was visited by a pitch black, formless thing, a presence which hovered over the ceiling of my bed, as I slept, fitfully. I was paralyzed and suffocating in my sleep, and struggled, wondering whether it was a dream, if I were dead, or if I had left myself astrally. It could've been any of the above, I guess ... but it scared the crap out of me.

So the case CAN be made that I did in fact open myself up to evil forces, and the demonic realm (if there is such a thing, of which I'm not sure there is, truthfully). I can confirm however that "demonic" thoughts and emotional states are visited upon me, and do influence my everyday life. Maybe I am sometimes in denial about it, but there is a draw to the darkness I can't kick. Again, the psychiatrist will maintain this is schizophrenia.

But I think you understand my point.
There is more that could be said on this topic, but let's just stop at this for now.
I think seeking help via spiritual channels as I posted before is as important /if not more/ then shirks.
I hope you will at least give a try to those suggestion I posed in that other thread.
Good luck with it...:)

Some of my family are very religious - in one of these Pentecostal or Protestant, Evangelical type churches, and I'm wary of it, because, I also had a bad experience when going to a church with them once. I went in good faith, and got so sick in there, had missing time, went temporarily deaf, and heard that Aramaic being whispered again and felt really faint. Overall, I was really relieved to get out of there when the service was over. Oh, and the priest kind of attacked me, by alluding to "new people", who come to church once in a while/once in a blue moon ... I though he went about it like an asshole, and should've been more inviting.

I've been told that this shit that happens to me around Christians and churches is "the Holy Spirit" intervening in my life ... but it sounds like bullshit to me, because it hurts, I don't understand it, and it never seems to do anything positive for me, other than making me feel sick. I just think its all a bit weird.

Re: QANON
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2019, 11:56:39 pm »
I went in good faith, and got so sick in there, had missing time, went temporarily deaf, and heard that Aramaic being whispered again and felt really faint.
Was this before or after you recited the thing your girlfriend gave you?

AZZERAE

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Re: QANON
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2019, 08:34:16 am »
Was this before or after you recited the thing your girlfriend gave you?

A few years after that.

Re: QANON
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2019, 12:52:13 am »