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See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« on: April 27, 2020, 07:47:47 pm »
Steps
1. Go to Heavens Above and enter the town nearest you Alternative: Zoom the earth map in and out and double click your location so the black marker moves to it.
2 Scroll to the bottom of the location page and click "update"
3 you should now be on the main Heavens Above page(might want to bookmark) with your time and location on the top right. Verify they are correct

The Basics - What you need
1 A clear night(obviously) sometimes partly cloudy might be okay
2 A watch synched to your computer
3 As little light pollution as possible. Helpful but not necessary. Some objects are almost as bright as the brighter stars
4 Know where North, south, east and west are for your location(You'd probably be surprised how many adults don't know this)
5 Familiarity with constellations. The more the better, start with the easy ones like the big dipper, Cassiopeia and Orion and work your way out

Easy mode - Tony Stark's Starlink satellites
From the main Heavens Above page click "Starlink passes for all objects from a launch" Click on the hyperlink in the Highest point>Time column
You will now see a map with the satellite pass(represented by the line) If todays pass isn't good(maybe too close to the horizon) try another day (press ">" to change the day). Pass positions change daily, sometimes if you're lucky they'll go directly overhead

Go outside a few minutes(5-10) before a pass begins to get your bearings and to let your eyes adjust to the darkness. Be prepared to be a bit freaked out by the parade ;D

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2020, 08:32:21 pm »
I'm quite interested to try this Padre, certainly the commentary LMH made on the flush of recent sightings in areas like Detroit and Cleveland has me darned intrigued to see if it lines up with an identified transit path.







I say, show me the big lifting wing triangular stealth craft, enough of this trifling with Musk's paltry Skynet orbs!

https://www.foxnews.com/science/a-ufo-video-captures-strange-object-near-ohio-military-base

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The 13-minute YouTube video appears to show an object hovering and disappearing into the clouds near the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which housed an Air Force project that documented alleged UFO and extraterrestrial sightings from 1947 to 1969.




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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2020, 08:49:57 pm »


So there we have it Padre, Cleveland Rocks!

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2020, 09:34:28 pm »
lol close but no cigar

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2020, 10:09:25 pm »
lol close but no cigar
Padre you'll have to cue me to the easter egg then. :o

I ran the Detroit emulation and it wasn't straight overhead, but it was close.




Re: See (Un)Identified with the naked eye
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2020, 11:26:41 pm »
Easy Mode Pt Deux: The International Space Station(ISS)
Also pretty easy but due to the nature of its orbit, viewing can be sporadic. Sometimes you'll get one or 2 passes a day and then go two weeks without a pass. Click on "ISS" under "10-day predictions for satellites of special interest" from the main heavens above page. Click on the date for a pass map so you know where to look

What am I looking for? A very bright (often brighter than Venus, but unblinking) star moving across the sky. Could easily be mistaken for an airplane with landing lights on(or a UFO?)

A word about Magnitude: Magnitude is just nerd-speak for how bright a sky object is. Its a reverse scale ie a bright object has a low(or negative) number while a dim object has a high number. The naked eye can see up to around 5 or 6, the Big Dipper stars are around 2, Venus(often mistaken for a star or UFO) is around -4.5, a full moon is around -13 and the sun is around -27

The ISS varies anywhere from 0 to -4 which makes it easy to see in poor conditions(light polluted or hazy skies)

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2020, 12:17:42 am »
I have seen the ISS before, in fact the last time it was so bright it looked like a large jumbo jet, just obviously at a higher altitude, but still almost impossibly bright and gleaming, mirror like.

I wonder is anyone is really misconscrewing that as a UFO?

Maybe Commander Fravor needs to do an intercept, heh...

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2020, 08:31:39 pm »
I'm quite interested to try this Padre, certainly the commentary LMH made on the flush of recent sightings in areas like Detroit and Cleveland has me darned intrigued to see if it lines up with an identified transit path.
Do you remember where you saw or read that? Because that was my hypothesis with all this. However Im still open that the Starlink explanation could be the 2020 version of "swamp gas"[/quote]

I thought I had the episode in mind but reviewing the past few has been fruitless and her website search engine is mute on Musk and Starlink.

I consume a lot of data, but I believe she had commentary on this, and certainly she did on the X-Mas drones in Colorado and Nebraska - all unexplained to this date.

An aside - if one wanted to spread bacteria a drone would be a dandy way to go.

So noe we're slaughtering the cattle herds...huh...coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Earthfiles/videos

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Im torn on LMH. On one hand she seems like a competent professional reporter but on the other hand  her C2C witness interviews are full of leading questions and have an odd stilted quality(they are either at best, heavily edited or at worst, scripted) For instance, you'll never hear an "ummm" or "uh" in any of the witnesses answers

I believe I heard some flubs from Spartan 1 & 2 on the Antarctica thing, but you're right she may edit and clean her audio up .

One that she didn't , the PhD immunoligist JaYyCouey - that one you really should see:

https://youtu.be/_2UpgdVhRTs?t=829

It's as cogent and hard science an explanation of why we may have real difficulty getting a vaccine that doesn't tend to false positives.

[qupte]It didn't help to learn she sold Arts parts to pyramid scheme enthusiast Tom LeDonge for $35,000

So let's say this. I think the possibility that all these folks are fellow travelers at some esoterically nuanced level we'll never get to the bottom of is real. She touts the alien bases in Antarctica, yet some of the less sanguine paranormal community considers them the home of the "evil aliens" that yet bedevil this planet. Her Piri Reis map loaded documentary on it was well worth renting. There was however a dearth of consideration of any spiritual or alien race based evil, which I find an odd omission.

It's like the current Discovery show on the Skinwalker Ranch. And yes, Bigelow sold it to a younger Utah commercial real estate cowboy (Brandon Fuga) who's a pillar of the Mormon community, for lesser values of what that means.

At the end of the day I suppose she had bills to pay, or perhaps someone got to her.

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“And the $35,000 figure is probably, well, they think is so low that they couldn't believe it. How do you estimate the value?,” Moulton Howe said. “I figure I've spent about $900 to $2,000 a year from 1996 to 2019 in all the various things that I've done.”

Iow, all things are in play, little is solidly known.

Sounds a LOT like the entire paranormal field to me, as ever. :o


Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2020, 08:37:27 pm »
It's hard to tell if somebody could mistake the ISS for a UFO. Maybe the ISS is 2020's version of "Venus" or "street lights" Truth or recycled 1950s muddied water. Only the renowned UFO report-hoarder Dieter Pavendort knows for sure

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2020, 09:26:40 pm »
It's hard to tell if somebody could mistake the ISS for a UFO. Maybe the ISS is 2020's version of "Venus" or "street lights" Truth or recycled 1950s muddied water. Only the renowned UFO report-hoarder Dieter Pavendort knows for sure

Lol, from deep inside his missile silo home - still one of the most genial and prepared guests to ever spawn from the Coast family tree.

It never caused me any ufology pangs of concern when I saw it's inordinately low pass. But I did marvel at how easily the details resolved with simple 10X binocs.

Just a wonderful thing to have seen. :)

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2020, 05:59:45 pm »
I've been running the Heavens Above search engine through Starlink transits over Cleveland on April 3-4 - none found.

And for Detroit - same thing, nothing in April, last transits as of March 18.

Hmmm...bad data or military ops?

https://www.latest-ufo-sightings.net/2020/04/another-mass-ufo-sighting-cleveland-ohio-4-apr-2020.html



I mean that is the classic Starlink signature as I've seen it shared:

https://www.cnet.com/news/spacex-starlink-satellite-constellation-is-growing-again-how-to-spot-it/

But check this whole planet sat map out - the heavens truly are crowded!

https://platform.leolabs.space/visualizations/leo#search=starlink;view=lastTracked

https://www.n2yo.com/satellites/?c=52

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STARLINK-6 GROUP   72000   2020-025A   April 22, 2020   90.2   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1308   45419   2020-019BM   March 18, 2020   95   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1299   45418   2020-019BL   March 18, 2020   94.6   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1286   45417   2020-019BK   March 18, 2020   95   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1318   45416   2020-019BJ   March 18, 2020   92.1   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1316   45415   2020-019BH   March 18, 2020   92.1   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1309   45414   2020-019BG   March 18, 2020   92.1   TRACK IT
STARLINK-1298   45413   2020-019BF   March 18, 2020   92.1   TRACK IT

Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2020, 08:53:08 pm »
I've been running the Heavens Above search engine through Starlink transits over Cleveland on April 3-4 - none found.

And for Detroit - same thing, nothing in April, last transits as of March 18.

Hmmm...bad data or military ops?
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I mean that is the classic Starlink signature as I've seen it shared:

Good work Metron PI, you're approaching one of my hypotheses

"Vultures may serve as universal symbols of death, but their lifestyle as insatiable scavengers causes prey animals to quickly lose respect for these slightly aberrant meat-eating birds. They fall into two categories: Old World vultures are related to raptors, while New World vultures may share a relationship with storks. Conversely, hawks and eagles elicit an immediate flight response from many of their prey items that instantly recognize the deadly threat the birds pose. Zone-tailed hawks have evolved traits including a lengthened tail, dihedral forming wings, black plumage and a distinctive wobble in their flight that causes them to resemble a harmless turkey vulture. Many ornithologists believe these traits are a form of aggressive mimicry intended to bring them close to their prey without triggering flight. Zone-tailed hawks fly incognito over a range of habitats in both North and South America."

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Re: See (Un)Identified withte naked eye
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2020, 06:54:55 pm »
Alright then Higgins, I was hoping to spare you and Robin and the lads the doomy gloom of this answer, but since you insist...



http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue708.htm

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ZetaTalk Analysis 4/30/2020: We have detailed the degree to which the St. Lawrence Seaway and the states running along south of the Seaway will participate during the New Madrid adjustment. The Seaway is already ripping open all the way to the Black Hills, and will do so again, though not to the degree anticipated for the Pole Shift adjustment. The New Madrid Fault Line turns toward the East when it reaches the Chicago area, and runs along under the Seaway all the way to the New England region. Thus Detroit and Cleveland will both be affected when the big New Madrid adjustment occurs. 

The Detroit UFO display shows an expanding line, moving at both ends of the display. Detroit already has a persistent hum, as it is ripping apart along the course of the river between the Great Lakes on either side – Lake Huron and Lake Erie. Cleveland is directly on the Seaway, and will find sloshing water from the widening Seaway to be a rapidly diminishing problem. Thus the UFO display in Cleveland seems to disappear. Do these displays, coming at this time, mean the New Madrid rip is close at hand? Yes.





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