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AZZERAE

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Why I created AzzGab
« on: August 25, 2019, 11:54:21 am »
My name is Azzerae, and I grew up in South Africa. While I wouldn't consider myself a big forum user, the one place I have frequented quite a bit is a site called BellGab (what was once what I considered the quintessential Art Bell fan forum). If you're not familiar with Art Bell, he was an American talk show host who broadcast from his home in the desert, covering a wide array of unusual topics centred around the paranormal. He also discussed other things though, such as the news of the day, politics, and just about anything you could think of - and he was damn good at it.

Anyway, so, I was turned on to him by my best friend in the late aughts, and at that time, Art wasn't actually active as a broadcaster on the air. Rather, he had left the company he worked for for many years - namely 'Coast to Coast AM' - and another, lesser host by the name of George Noory had taken over as the main host. I used to listen to George Noory for a while, more interested in the guest he had on, and not so much his interview style (or lack thereof) ... that is, until I happened across BellGab. I signed up at BellGab, and their most active thread on the forum was a thread called "George Noory Sucks! The Definitive Compendium". I found this amusing, and began posting in the thread. Over time, I became more and more disillusioned with Noory, due to the constant lambasting he'd take by users of the forum ... and I found myself becoming a very negative and bitter person. I'd always had a bit of a dark sense of humour, but BellGab seemed to flip a switch in me, setting me into hyperdrive hate mode.

Over the years, I became more and more fond of the forum and its rather small circle of users. I got to know a few of them, and actually was quite taken with the owner of the forum who went by the name "MV" - or "Michael Vandeven". He and I were always quite amiable, but over the course of a few years, he became more and more odd ... something changed in him, and when people pointed it out, he'd either lash out at them, deny it, belittle them or it'd result in their banning.

One time, BellGab went down, and was gone for about 3 months, with a message displayed on its home page saying something along the lines of it being for sale to the highest bidder. I forget the figures, but shortly thereafter, a knock-off version of the site popped up, which was called "EllGab". Now EllGab was a spin-off created by an ex user of BellGab who went by the name "Bart Ell" - an anagram of Art Bell. Bart Ell proved to be quite a heavy-handed moderator, and when BellGab was down, I had signed up at EllGab, posted quite a bit, my demeanour cheerful at first.

However, when BellGab came back online, I went right back, as I'd always preferred it and seen it as my crowd, other than the type of people that flocked to EllGab. Then, there were stages when my activity on both sites waxed and waned. A lot of life changes were occurring for me at the same time, and I would go back to BellGab quite a lot for fun and for sado-masochistic discussion.

During this time of my life, I was living under a great deal of stress, and had developed the bad habit of isolating myself to the point of it becoming dangerous. BellGab fostered a lot of negative feelings in me at the time, a great deal of feelings I was responsible for - but BellGab didn't help. I began lashing out at a lot of different users, completely and utterly for my own amusement, but a darker side of what was occurring didn't register within me.

I had become ill. I had always suffered with a severe mood disorder, which went undiagnosed for years, but an additional element of mental illness was fast beginning to chip away at my ability to relate to others. Again, Bellgab didn't help. Now, please, I don't mean to place the blame on BellGab's owner - even though I no longer have the same level of fondness for him as I once did, he was always rather nice to me.

I was in the throws of a psychotic break, and just a few months prior from me writing this very post, I have been receiving ongoing treatment for schizophrenia. More and more on the forums EllGab and BellGab, I engaged in behaviours which pushed moderator's buttons. But I've always been like that. Currently, I am permanently banned from EllGab, and have been banned from BellGab twice. Right now I'm banned from BellGab, for sharing my account with my significant other. As I began this post, I'll mention again, I'm rather new to forum use and although I did a few things wrong, I didn't know that sharing my account with my partner was a bannable offense.

So this is why I started AzzGab. I'm sick and tired of having to kowtow to MV - or any other moderator. I aim to allow any discussion and not become trigger happy with my own ban list, but perhaps over the years I'll learn what its like to be on the other end of this ordeal.

Happy posting!

- AZZERAE

Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2019, 06:43:32 pm »
Ballgrab has always had but one purpose (personal denigration) but a broad field of moles to whack:



Consider that your experience with learning to loathe Noory wasn't born of his limited interviewing skills, rather it was inculcated in a climate of hostility, projection, and spite. Those truly are the core "values" of both gabs. Each forum owner is deeply disturbed individually, but also unique in their play calling.

For Bart Ell it's entirely about ego massage - his unquenched need for female supplicants has made Ellgab the preferred cattery for sycophantic Heather Wade haters and the apparently half a dozen or so dedicated listeners of the pallidly Coast derivative "Midnight in the Desert "- Bart and Queef's bunker mentality streaming ratings disaster of a shit show. Just as with Coast the lead host (Dave Schrader) is eclipsed by the fill-in talent of "Spooky Tim" and the surprisingly listenable Shannon LeGro. But Bart thrives to produce his musical cartoon poster mockeries and when needed singles out some minor player in the paranormal field to be the source of his attentions. At present it's gay psychic Chip Coffey, who Bart has lampooned with a "Chimp Covfefe" Twitter sock account.

There's real value in fresh meat for the personal petting zoo and should the Chimp charade tail off it's likely Bart will again "save" the cat ladies from yet another egregious "fraud" in the paranormal verse. Of course there's an increasingly obvious dilution of participants as there we so many bans at Ellgab that at best it sports a dozen regulars at any given time. That's some seriously anemic audience "growth" since its initial "white knight" days following the Ballgrab hiatus. In essence while Bart has built up a Canadian paranormal mini podverse of his own he has also hobbled its success by alienating more users than he has been able to retain. The so-called "petting zoo" banishment thread, his ham-fisted intolerance of anyone who dares question the virtual gaslighting of Heather Wade, the cornball attempts at "humor" - they all add up to a dwindling stack of sycophants, this much is painfully clear.

But the rather abrupt and obvious transformation of Michael Walker from sly but tolerant libertarian administrator into a puissant picador is the real sideshow as these things go. One can't but wonder at the life events behind his Jekyll/Hyde transmogrification. Was it the sale of his computer repair business, family issues, a recent move, or some combination of all that soured the man? And he tenders the charade that he's sold his forum to non-participant and Ebay pauper George Senda as what, a firewall against coming legal action?

Certainly the hateful treatment he's made Starr Mountain the butt of speaks to a deep and recent sociopathy, though no less so than the cumulative bully culture he's seeded and "nurtured" in BG.

However unlike Bart Ell's collapsing forum dark star the critical mass at Bellgab has been fueled by Richard Groyper's steady transition from a sneering voice with no face into a regular live stream shit talker. That devolution one can trace straight over to needy old Brig's constant desire for YouTube streamers to denigrate and groom for her personal glee. The awful loneliness of this shut in seemingly could have flourished in the feeding of pigeons at the park, but a full coffee pot and the emotions of an Anthony or Erinn to twist and toy with apparently are far more appealing than tossing bread crusts to birds.

So what Ballgrab has is enough cumulative hate and voyeurism to refuel and perhaps even grow its mass for a time, certainly there is no shortage of attention whoring on YT, ergo a shopping center rich in emotionally fractious personas willing to be(for a time anyway) chewed up and spit out by Brig and company.

It's a toxic soup from top to bottom, but it's also a place which one must remember subjected its namesake (Art Bell) to no less by way of derision and discord. MV likes to maintain that his forum alone was responsible for Art's return to the air but it's readily apparent that just as Art was bedevield by the Balgrab crab pot, so to is heather Wade now squarely in MV's crosshairs and so the BG "legacy" of eating its own persists.

There was, once upon a time, a free speech benevolence that was BG's lone redeeming value, Sadly, unless one signs on for the hate Heather program, that small candle of flickering libertarian luminescence is extinguished.

It may be relit here, but only if we fuel it with humor and not hate.



Thanks for making this Azz, your kindness made you an awful fit for BG, but your talent and self-awareness caught each and evrey one of them off guard.

No small feat that.


AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2019, 08:05:40 pm »
Consider that your experience with learning to loathe Noory wasn't born of his limited interviewing skills, rather it was inculcated in a climate of hostility, projection, and spite. Those truly are the core "values" of both gabs. Each forum owner is deeply disturbed individually, but also unique in their play calling.

This is the very thought that occurred to me when reflecting in my above post, about how I began to sneer at the radio the more I tuned in to Noory shows and coupled that act with the use of BellGab. While I've always had a dark side to me, the environment did indeed encourage a bit more meanness than I can take full credit for.

The rather abrupt and obvious transformation of Michael Walker from sly but tolerant libertarian administrator into a puissant picador is the real sideshow as these things go. One can't but wonder at the life events behind his Jekyll/Hyde transmogrification. Was it the sale of his computer repair business, family issues, a recent move, or some combination of all that soured the man?

My guess is this new job he's taken in another state has him in quite the rut. Going from king of the castle to a mere dirty rascal, and taking orders from "the man" is one of the few things that can drive one over the edge, in my opinion.

I emailed him yesterday, asked if I was done for good at BellGab - because I let slip accidentally that me and my significant other both used my account. No word back, and he moved my threads to the archive, so now its that scoundrel VC questioning four walls and trying to garner some news off Dick Groyper via a stream in which he discussed us then conveniently deleted.

I tire of the whole circus, however, do hope any of these people that have a hate woody for me will sign in here and challenge me on my own territory, instead of hiding behind Liberace's coattails like little spoilt brats.

[BellGab's administrator] tenders the charade that he's sold his forum to non-participant and Ebay pauper George Senda as what, a firewall against coming legal action?

That was merely him cracking corn, I believe. Nothin' to it.

Certainly the hateful treatment he's made Starr Mountain the butt of speaks to a deep and recent sociopathy, though no less so than the cumulative bully culture he's seeded and "nurtured" in BG.

However unlike Bart Ell's collapsing forum dark star the critical mass at Bellgab has been fueled by Richard Groyper's steady transition from a sneering voice with no face into a regular live stream shit talker. That devolution one can trace straight over to needy old Brig's constant desire for YouTube streamers to denigrate and groom for her personal glee. The awful loneliness of this shut in seemingly could have flourished in the feeding of pigeons at the park, but a full coffee pot and the emotions of an Anthony or Erinn to twist and toy with apparently are far more appealing than tossing bread crusts to birds.

Make no mistake, the pit of vipers will turn undeniably ouroboros as quick as jack flash, and this trend has already begun.

Anthony is no longer the hype man for Richard's circus of worthless pawns, the infighting is in full swing now that you and I are on the outs. Soon there'll be nothing left of their sorry little circle of a shit show but about 4 people denigrating each other.

And the recent removal of PM's will be sure to accentuate such depravity. You wait.

So what Ballgrab has is enough cumulative hate and voyeurism to refuel and perhaps even grow its mass for a time, certainly there is no shortage of attention whoring on YT, ergo a shopping center rich in emotionally fractious personas willing to be(for a time anyway) chewed up and spit out by Brig and company.

It's a toxic soup from top to bottom, but it's also a place which one must remember subjected its namesake (Art Bell) to no less by way of derision and discord. MV likes to maintain that his forum alone was responsible for Art's return to the air but it's readily apparent that just as Art was bedevield by the Balgrab crab pot, so to is heather Wade now squarely in MV's crosshairs and so the BG "legacy" of eating its own persists.

There was, once upon a time, a free speech benevolence that was BG's lone redeeming value, Sadly, unless one signs on for the hate Heather program, that small candle of flickering libertarian luminescence is extinguished.

It may be relit here, but only if we fuel it with humor and not hate.

I'm under no false belief that this forum I've made will measure up to the numbers of either of the Gab's that came before, but it was birthed out of my need to not have to be constantly walking on egg shells because I'd offended the overlord MV became.

I want to have an open dialogue with the people I wasn't able to openly address. If they stay away from here and don't want to discuss any of the things that were left unsaid, its only fear on their part. And people like VC for instance, who constantly sought my and others' personal information while evading any questions asked of him, is nothing but a nosy parker lacking the testes to match up to you or I.

The fact that Dick Groyper and VC are kicking around the possibility that I've pretended to be schizophrenic doesn't surprise me. Its the internet after all, so most people steer clear of sharing their personal business. The thing is, Richard and I were amiable for a time, and I truly did confide in him ... so I was a little disappointed at first, when he turned on me. All I'll say is that I have nothing to gain by faking a mental illness as serious and debilitating as schizophrenia, but I'll admit its foolish what I did, writing threads around it. But I was compelled to do it.

Thanks for making this Azz, your kindness made you an awful fit for BG, but your talent and self-awareness caught each and evrey one of them off guard.

No small feat that.

Well, that's very nice of you to say, and we've always been friends, so I take it to heart. No ego stroking necessary here though, I say to others who may be reading this. Not that you were stroking my ego, we're real life friends. Its just that disagreement - respectful or otherwise - I'd like to see here in future.

Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 08:32:05 pm »
If this forum languishes it will be because the cowardly dogs of Ballgrab can't bring themselves to fight without a rigged forum to shield them.


AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 08:48:53 pm »
If this forum languishes it will be because the cowardly dogs of Ballgrab can't bring themselves to fight without a rigged forum to shield them.

You and I both know they're all gigantic pussies.

Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2019, 09:02:31 pm »

I'm under no false belief that this forum I've made will measure up to the numbers of either of the Gab's that came before, but it was birthed out of my need to not have to be constantly walking on egg shells because I'd offended the overlord MV became.

I want to have an open dialogue with the people I wasn't able to openly address. If they stay away from here and don't want to discuss any of the things that were left unsaid, its only fear on their part. And people like VC for instance, who constantly sought my and others' personal information while evading any questions asked of him, is nothing but a nosy parker lacking the testes to match up to you or I.

The fact that Dick Groyper and VC are kicking around the possibility that I've pretended to be schizophrenic doesn't surprise me. Its the internet after all, so most people steer clear of sharing their personal business. The thing is, Richard and I were amiable for a time, and I truly did confide in him ... so I was a little disappointed at first, when he turned on me. All I'll say is that I have nothing to gain by faking a mental illness as serious and debilitating as schizophrenia, but I'll admit its foolish what I did, writing threads around it. But I was compelled to do it.

Free speech MV style in the final analysis was another truncated tantrum destined to cull, sort, and dismiss the dissenters.

Richard has an amiable side, but his fealty is to drawing others in and then curtly throttling them, albeit with a demeanor so flat and expressionless that one wonders if the dearth of body language and monotone delivery paint the picture an actual sociopath at play. The velvet hammer of Brig has beene emboldend, stroked, and generally induced to come out of his personal shell both on YT as well as Twitter:

https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay

He's fond of waving "the heater" as he refers to it, but claims to be "only trying to help"...

Lack of subject/verb concordance that is...but moreover one has to hand it to Brig as the master manipulator of Ballgrab and as we all have experienced there MV's personal favorite.

My admiration is iof her innate ability to provoke actual discord in the fewest words possible. It's a "gift" of sorts, a real tool set from the dark side.




Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2019, 09:04:57 pm »
You and I both know they're all gigantic pussies.

Indeed so, and now they have actual death threats from Anthony to languish in.

But wait, the pussy patrol isn't a small posse at all:

https://archive.is/QSp7f

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Absolutely the worst the most mean spirited VILE person on BellGab is that 70 years old Brit Yorkshire pud,
even listening to his voice when he called last night to "Martinez Tonight" you could judge by the sound of his shaking voice that he is very old unhappy lonely prick.

Is it because of his liver cancer that he is so bitter, he turns away so many people from posting and joining BellGab because he just jumps on them and attacks them,
he always finds something to attack, he never jokes with people there,
he comes to BellGab just to spread his poison of hate towards others, no matter what.

But MV is too blind to see that of course and he thinks because YP is posting so much every day that this is good, yes it is good
for that old cow Yorkshire pud but not good to attract new members to BellGab.
New people are uncomfortable with aggressive assholes like Yorkshire pud and his illiterate ibtch Sredni Vashtar both of those ufcking stinking Brits attack everybody there
spoiling atmosphere for new members to join.

Just imagine for a moment how more pleasant atmosphere would be on BellGab is those two English buffoons were not posting their aggressive insults there
all the ufcking time, they are never happy and relax always in ugly attack mode like somebody was ufcking paying them or something to do that every day.

The day they die and post there no more will be so liberating and very happy event in BellGabs history, they think because they register there so long ago that they own the ufcking board.

Even MV doesn't like me but it would be good for him to get this post and read it and analyze the situation from different perspective.
Let MV know. COPY and PM to him till this thread is up.

MV could have so many more new members if was not for those two terrorist English turds.

Those two English pigs think that they still ruling the World. Isht piles of manure two ugly human douchebags.

Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 09:17:26 pm »
One of the most hilarious hypocrisies in yesterday's BOYT stream from Groyper was seeing him and VC so embittered that certain posters actually used Ballgrab more frequently (and successfully) then they were able to tolerate. Of course this runs smack into Brig's synthetic macro greeting of "post often", but really we're not grading for consistency anway so...

It bears mention that in addition to his frequently accessed twitter account Groyper is also active on Foolsbook and of course his streaming, so as spending one's cyber-day goes he's by far a prolific poster in his own right.

It was also enlightening to know he's 34 and allegedly retired - so once more we have some classic:



I mean what does a young man in his prime do with his days anyway?

Yep, the same thing that hateful old psychic vampire Brig does:


Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2019, 11:56:57 pm »
Thank you, Azraa, for creating this forum.

There is nothing I can add here that you and Metron haven't already spoken about.
All I can say at this time is that I'm heartbroken from an unexpected betrayal by one who had been a trusted friend for many years.  That kind of isht hurts.  That's all I want to say for now.

Again, thanks man.

Metron

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 12:11:56 am »
Your real friends would never think to betray you - and even those who know you casually wouldn't dare.

It's these pseduonym'd head gamers who find such a thing both amusing and somehow excusable.

Feel welcomed and at home here - peace/out oh and WWG1WGA!


Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2019, 12:15:15 am »

I mean what does a young man in his prime do with his days anyway?

Yep, the same thing that hateful old psychic vampire Brig does:



You, NAILED it!!!

AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 02:59:29 pm »
Free speech MV style in the final analysis was another truncated tantrum destined to cull, sort, and dismiss the dissenters.

The dude's life is definitely not going well. He's been on the rag for more than a few weeks now. I think he needs a rubber room more than I do at this point in time.

Richard has an amiable side, but his fealty is to drawing others in and then curtly throttling them, albeit with a demeanor so flat and expressionless that one wonders if the dearth of body language and monotone delivery paint the picture an actual sociopath at play. The velvet hammer of Brig has beene emboldend, stroked, and generally induced to come out of his personal shell both on YT as well as Twitter:

https://twitter.com/TheeArtVandelay

He's fond of waving "the heater" as he refers to it, but claims to be "only trying to help"...

Lack of subject/verb concordance that is...but moreover one has to hand it to Brig as the master manipulator of Ballgrab and as we all have experienced there MV's personal favorite.

My admiration is of her innate ability to provoke actual discord in the fewest words possible. It's a "gift" of sorts, a real tool set from the dark side.

I must admit, upon watching Richard's most recent video, entitled 'Why I'm Moving On From Lit City', the man does come across likeable once again. And I maintain, he has his good points, and while they're very few they're every bit as valid as his bad ones.

Hmm, yes, indeed ... this "flat affect" in Richard's facial expression (or lack thereof) is concerning to say the very least. I'd caution all involved to watch him closer in time to come ... because he and I may be more similar than any of the demons know.

As for Brig, I have nothing to say. Couldn't care one way or the other what she does or doesn't do. She's welcome to sign up here, just like anybody else, by the way. But something tells me she's not my biggest fan.

AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2019, 03:07:40 pm »
Indeed so, and now they have actual death threats from Anthony to languish in.

But wait, the upssy patrol isn't a small posse at all:

https://archive.is/QSp7f

Anonymous  01/08/17(Sun)03:31:56 No.18501285▶>>18501506 >>18502872 >>18503010
File: turd-Yorkshire pud .png (731 KB, 638x768)
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Absolutely the worst the most mean spirited VILE person on BellGab is that 70 years old Brit Yorkshire pud,
even listening to his voice when he called last night to "Martinez Tonight" you could judge by the sound of his shaking voice that he is very old unhappy lonely prick.

Is it because of his liver cancer that he is so bitter, he turns away so many people from posting and joining BellGab because he just jumps on them and attacks them,
he always finds something to attack, he never jokes with people there,
he comes to BellGab just to spread his poison of hate towards others, no matter what.

But MV is too blind to see that of course and he thinks because YP is posting so much every day that this is good, yes it is good
for that old cow Yorkshire pud but not good to attract new members to BellGab.
New people are uncomfortable with aggressive assholes like Yorkshire pud and his illiterate ibtch Sredni Vashtar both of those ufcking stinking Brits attack everybody there
spoiling atmosphere for new members to join.

Just imagine for a moment how more pleasant atmosphere would be on BellGab is those two English buffoons were not posting their aggressive insults there
all the ufcking time, they are never happy and relax always in ugly attack mode like somebody was ufcking paying them or something to do that every day.

The day they die and post there no more will be so liberating and very happy event in BellGabs history, they think because they register there so long ago that they own the ufcking board.

Even MV doesn't like me but it would be good for him to get this post and read it and analyze the situation from different perspective.
Let MV know. COPY and PM to him till this thread is up.

MV could have so many more new members if was not for those two terrorist English turds.

Those two English pigs think that they still ruling the World. Isht piles of manure two ugly human douchebags.


Excellent find, man! Where'd you scoop this?

AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2019, 03:16:57 pm »
One of the most hilarious hypocrisies in yesterday's BOYT stream from Groyper was seeing him and VC so embittered that certain posters actually used Ballgrab more frequently (and successfully) then they were able to tolerate. Of course this runs smack into Brig's synthetic macro greeting of "post often", but really we're not grading for consistency anway so...

PFFT - REALLY! I guess those swine got sand in their pussies over a simple "difference of opinion". The most amusing sentiment I read before I got barred from BellGab most recently was when Richard referred to me as sperging out in the threads. Coming from a man who can't express human emotion - and who's only counterpart is a sad old hag with a blown out cnut in a retirement home, preying on the less fortunate to get her rocks off. Doesn't get sadder than sad. No sir. Fuck the lot of them!

Oh and by the way - there's nothing wrong with being real friend's with anyone of any age, a lot of elderly people are lovely, I only characterize Brig this way because she's HORRIBLE ON THE INSIDE. And in the end, that's all that matters ... because one's looks don't last.

It bears mention that in addition to his frequently accessed twitter account Groyper is also active on Foolsbook and of course his streaming, so as spending one's cyber-day goes he's by far a prolific poster in his own right.

It was also enlightening to know he's 34 and allegedly retired - so once more we have some classic:



I mean what does a young man in his prime do with his days anyway?

Yep, the same thing that hateful old psychic vampire Brig does:



Christ, what a pair of pathetic losers. Um - lemme straighten up. All the best to 'em.


AZZERAE

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Re: Why I created AzzGab
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2019, 03:25:34 pm »
Thank you, Azraa, for creating this forum.

My pleasure. I think we've needed a place of our own for a while now, seeing as though some dark force has emptied out the soul of the once nice and kind MV, and replaced it with a hollow demonic shell with a ban button for everyone who doesn't lay prostrate to his Queen of the Flies "Brig".

There is nothing I can add here that you and Metron haven't already spoken about.
All I can say at this time is that I'm heartbroken from an unexpected betrayal by one who had been a trusted friend for many years.  That kind of isht hurts.  That's all I want to say for now.

Again, thanks man.

Oh, there's a whole lot more to say, but you're usually one who brings out the good in others. A concept at complete and utters odds with the current state of "Bellchan".

I'll say, when MV pulled out the knife and kept stabbing at you my mouth hung wide open and my eyes grew wider. He's certainly not the same person he was that initially began the original CoastGab, and to have things turn out as they have is a tragedy to say the least.

You don't need "friends" like that, that turn on you when the going gets tough - despite the fact you stuck with them through thick and thin. The way you handled the abuse in my end days on that board was with a grace most of us don't possess.

Please tell any of your friends about this forum as you can. Oh, and another thing - MV removed the PM function for everyone earlier this week, and he's getting a real laugh out of everyone asking about it. So its not only you that lost access to your PMs. He's just being an ssahole and won't tell you the truth. He thinks its funny to troll his own friends. What a loser!